Karen Hanover At It Again Before Her Sentencing in January For Impersonation of an FBI Agent


Karen Hanover’s sentencing is the 9th of this month @ the Ronald Reagan Federal Building in Santa Ana, Ca.

The funny thing is … Will Karen Hanover and her attorney David Koch  ( nice last name )  never give up to make it appear she is did nothing wrong?

Today, Jean Norton who  has been very vocal about the actions of Karen Hanover has received a letter from Hanover’s attorney threatening her with legal action if she does not remove a blog post about Karen Hanover at:

http://www.jeannortoninvestor.com/2011/10/karen-hanover-commercial-real-estate.html

(this post has now been removed because she was intimidated or should I say bullied to remove it)

1. Nothing but the truth was said.

2. The video that Jean Norton embedded in her blog  is  a video published under  a creative commons license on YouTube.   Jean has nothing to do with this video.

Here is the letter from her attorney David Cock. Seems she is just using another scare tactic.

Add your comments to the post  to let this fake commercial guru know what you think of her.  We are still waiting on Ms Hanover to provide proof she ever did a deal.

If you are one of the people who gave Karen Hanover money for her “coaching program” please call the FBI agent Paul Bonin who is still investigating this case.  I am sure it is only a matter of time before the federal authorities will take further action Mr Koch.

FBI Agent – Paul Bonins number is 714-542-8825, email is paul.bonin@ic.fbi.gov

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13 thoughts on “Karen Hanover At It Again Before Her Sentencing in January For Impersonation of an FBI Agent

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  2. Robert Kim

    This is pretty funny since I’m the one who put up the video of Karen Hanover ripping people off and Jean is the one getting blamed. Man, still laughing about that as I type this comment. With a few me more posted videos, I’ll bet I can get this David Koch guy to blame Jean for the extinction of the dinosaurs. It’s kinda obvious that she didn’t upload it from the rkim777 name tag on it. I wouldn’t worry too much if I were Jean. David doesn’t seem to be too bright. Karen must be running out of the money she stole if he’s the best she can afford now.

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  3. Rebecca Smith

    THESE LITIGATION THREATS FROM THESE ATTORNEY’S THAT KAREN HANOVER OBTAINS WITH ALL HER VICTIMS MONEY IS REPULSING!!!!
    I HAVE BEEN THROUGH QUITE A FEW FRIBULIOUS LAW SUIT”S AND LEGAL THREATS FROM THIS TRUE CHARLATON, “KAREN HANOVER”. THIS IS VERY PREDICTABLE OF KAREN HANOVER. IT HAS BEEN HER WAY OF BULLYING PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST BEEN VICTIMIZED AND DEFRAUDED BY HER IF/WHEN THEY SPEAK OUT.
    I WILL FORWARD SOME THINGS TO ROBERT KIM TO PASS ON/POST, SO, IT CAN BE CLEAR TO JEAN NORTON AND ANY OTHERS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THESE TYPICAL B.S. THREATS FROM KAREN HANOVER AND THE UN-ETHICAL ATTORNEY’S THAT HAVE NO MORAL AND THRIVING BECAUSE OFTHIS PIECE OF SHIT.
    PLEASE KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL KAREN HANOVER TACTIC THAT SHE HAS BEEN USING FOR SOME TIME NOW….. IT IS TO BULLY AND SHUT YOU UP.
    IF THAT LETTER DOESN’T WORK, SHE THEN FILES A FRIBULIOUS SUIT TO GET YOU TO COME OUT OF POCKET FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION IN HOPES IT HURTS YOU TOO MUCH FINANCIALLY TO STAND YOUR GROUNDS.
    IT IS PRETTY UNLIKLY SHE WILL EVEN PURSUE AFTER YOU HAVE HAD TO COME OUT OF POCKET. TYPICALLY, THIS CROOK NEVER OFFICIALLY FILES SUIT BUT HAS HER ATTORNEY MAKE IT APPEAR SO, IN HOPES SHE ACCOMPLISHES HER MISSION….1. SHUT HER VICTIMS UP, 2. BULLY YOU WITH B.S. LITIGATION THREATS, 3. HIT YOU FINANCIALLY BY YOU OBTAINING LEGAL COUNCIL ( RETAINER ) , THEN SHE DOESN’T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH SUIT, USUALLY AWAITS TO FILE ANOTHER B.S SUIT IN HOPES YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR YET ANOTHER RETAINER AND ON AND ON……….. IT’S UN-BELEIVABLE WHEN GOING THROUGH THIS AND ACTUALLY SEEING THIS WORK FOR HER OVER AND OVER AGAIN……
    KAREN HAS NO STANDINGS!! SHE IS A FRAUD!!! CALL HER BLUFF!! THIS IS TO BULLY AND SCARE WHO EVER IS SPEAKING OUT! SHE CAN ONLY WIN BY MAKING YOU COME OUT OF POCKET… IT’S ALL A SICK GAME SHE HAS MASTERED..
    SHE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! VICTIMS NEED TO AGGRESSIVLY STAND UP TO HER AND ALL THE UN ETHICAL ATTORNEY’S THAT THRIVES ON THIS SICK WOMAN AND THE CRIMINAL MANIPULATION THROUGH THE COURTS AND OUR LEGAL SYSTEM TO VICTIMIZE OVER AND OVER…..
    OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND HAS ALOT OF LOOP HOLES THAT KAREN HANOVER HAS COME TO KNOW VERY WELL. BUT, I HAVE TO BELEIVE THE FBI WILL TAKE HER DOWN SOON AND BRING THE JUSTICE THAT IS SO NEEDED.

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  4. Jean Norton

    Actually whether I have this post up or not doesn’t make any difference to me in my life, so it’s not worth it any fight. I did keep the facts and removed the embedded video, and anything that could make her look bad based on unproven allegations, as requested. I feel so badly for those that never saw their investment back. It makes me sick that many are out so much money.

    However, you may get a laugh from what my attorney/friend suggested: that this letter itself may be a fake…and if someone went so far as to impersonate an FBI agent she may even impersonate a warden to get herself out of jail!

    She also seems to have a loyal following that support her stance, as one of the reached out to me to plead her case. However, just the information available in the Orange County public records dated PRIOR to the training event is enough to have made me avoid dealing with her on any capacity.

    Most counties have public records readily available online…It is my intention to scan those records before I shell out any significant funds in the future.

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    1. Robert Kim

      Interestingly enough, Karen stopped threatening to sue me after she was arrested and I only received one nasty email from her to my Youtube account after posting her selling her scam in Dallas. I didn’t get the letter you did despite my own blog and despite treating this like open season on this scumbag. You and Rebecca Smith are the only ones I know of who continue to receive legal threats from Karen Hanover. She probably realizes that Duncan and I would only laugh at any such attempts by her to also send us any legal threats. Still laughing at her and happily trashing her fraudulent azz online at will.

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      1. Robert Kim

        Gee, I feel left out. No letters from Karen Hanover’s attorney for me. Can’t wait to see what happens at the scumbag’s sentencing this month. Still letting people know to contact the FBI about Karen Hanover’s fraud.

      2. Jean Norton

        Duncan, he just demanded the posts be removed…Sometimes bullies win.

        I can’t fight for those that lost so much money…they need to fight for themselves. I can only encourage that those out their money follow the proper channels to ensure justice – so those of you hurt, intimidated, threatened or not, if you spent money on this program you will not get what you paid for.

        Tell your story to the proper authorities, even if you still support Karen Hanover. You will not get what you paid for. She is busy spending YOUR money on attorneys, not on partnering with you on commercial real estate deals as she promised. Open your eyes and realize this is business. She may have a great sob story and lot’s of excuses about being railroaded by this blog…the reality is she took your money and spending it on anything but what she promised you.

        Someone convicted of a federal crime rarely makes for a good financial partner.

      3. Robert Kim

        Jean, I went to your blog but couldn’t find your email address. The Karen Hanover attorney, David Koch, had Youtube remove the video. I was informed that the FBI may be using it as evidence for their fraud investigation on the Karen Hanover fraud so I’d like to see if David can be slapped with an Obstruction of Justice charge. I emailed Duncan asking for the letter you sent him but couldn’t cc you on it without your email. If you have any questions, my email is rkim777(at)yahoo.com and replace the (at) with @.

      4. Robert Kim

        Videos of Karen Hanover selling her fraud are back up at:

        http://solidbusinessloans.com/karenhanoverfraud/videos/

        in case there are any Hanover fraud victims who need to have their memories refreshed on what Karen sold to them versus what they actually received. To any Hanover fraud victims and witnesses who read this, don’t forget to complete the FBI questionnaire on her fraud and return it to the FBI. Downloadable questionnaire and return address are here on Duncan’s site or on mine at:

        http://solidbusinessloans.com/karenhanoverfraud/karen-hanover-fraud-investigation-money-karens-scam/

        It is imperative that Karen Hanover be convicted on criminal charges of fraud is any of the victims have a chance of getting any money back. Even if you are not a victim but a witness, your completing and returning this FBI questionnaire will help greatly to not only increase the chances of the victims getting back any money but also put other scam artists and frauds like Karen Hanover on notice that their scamming days are numbered.

  5. Stuart ONeill

    After the very first webinar I attended by Karen I wrote her an email telling her that the formula she presented as new and exciting had been in use for 30 years by my personal experience and likely 50+years in general.

    She was pitching as brand new a ‘sandwich lease’. In other words find a distressed property, offer to master-lease it at a low rate, solve whatever the issues were then lease it out, usually at a below market rent.

    The difference between your master lease and the actual Net Operating Income is your profit.

    In many circumstances it a great control formula. Most agents don’t realize that controlling a property can be more important than owning it.

    But Hanover didn’t give credit to the true giants who created the creative real estate world. She presented it as her own even though she denied it in her reply.

    She already at the mail-list webinar business before her sentencing. It leads me to think that they’ve already cut a deal that’s a slap on the wrist. I hope I’m wrong. I also hope Cal Department of Real Estate takes the situation seriously.

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